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Saturday, March 31, 2012

Hunger Games

We talked about this movie on the radio program today, parallels to reality and such, and someone here asked that we have a discussion post about it.
So, here it is, discuss!

My favorite part of the movie was this, paraphrased: " Well, they have to have their game"... "No, they don't!"

*EDIT*  I think the quote was more,"They have to have their winner." All in all, the point was NO, they don't.

Stop giving permission.


  1. I find it sad that good messages have to be hidden in layers of pointless violence to be presented to Americans. We're more like the late empire Romans than we'd like to admit.


  2. My daughter read the series in her spare time and we went to the movie today. She was disappointed, as most are when seeing a movie after reading the book. The movie only covered the first book and she said they are supposed to make three more movies out of the other two books. We were also not pleased with the acting.

  3. David listed off several points of similarity between the book and life which aren't immediately obvious on the show. I'd like to start a list of these along with supporting evidence.

  4. AP, I thought about that while I was watching the movie, first, how the "citizens" in the movie were like the Romans watching the arena games, then how we all were watching the "games" in the theater. This movie is far less violent than "The Patriot", "Saving Private Ryan", and other movies of that sort that most of us love for the "message". I would like the message to be right out in the open, but I like things that promote saying NO! to the system. It's all about our compliance, which is what I think this movie is about. If one day we all said no.
    Brock, I thought the acting was pretty good myself. I can imagine disappointment from book to movie though.
    Anonymous, I haven't read the books, I have only been aware of them for a couple of weeks now. This is an open thread, have at it, post what you want.

  5. I've read all the books and I also enjoyed the movie. My mother is the one who got me on the books probably 6 or 7 months ago. I was shocked that she didn't see how strongly anti-state they are. I devoured them on a work trip one each on the plane ride there and back and the middle one inbetween. They are easy and quick reads, originally targeted at teenagers but a lot of impressive work is done for that demographic more for economic reasons than anything else. The ideas elucidated in this book are not juvenile. I thought the movie was good, if anything I worried I enjoyed the movie more because I read the books. Some people say the following two aren't as good (I don't agree), but the anti-state message only picks up as they go on. Worth reading.

  6. After seeing reviews on LRC describing the book as anti-State I expressed an interest in reading them. My wife picked up the first on a shopping trip, and we raced through it, then quickly read the following two. Probably 10 days beginning to end. It was DEFINITELY written for teenage girls, but it isn't annoyingly so. My wife doesn't usually enjoy the 'pointed fiction' I read, when I read fiction. She wasn't a fan of Atlas Shrugged (Ayn's raw literary skills were marginal), didn't really get into Moon is a Harsh Mistress, but she enjoyed these.

    I haven't seen the movie. Probably will in the theaters.

    In the end, the books didn't wind up with much hope for achieving a better organization of society, just one further back on the descent. That was disappointing.